the forum seem to be O.K. for Mac but doesnt read or upload in UBUNTU linux.
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your right---- i had to add java codeing to get it working.....its an older system.

computers arghh! it loads now.

thanks much

Miles

what it was doing before was bringing up a URL of page not found.
now it brings up the page and all the content. Ubuntu software search of free codeings and gave me an upgrade that switched it. now everything loads great! thanks everybody.